World War 1-state Of Origin

[BSZERK]

im in the motor will be in by then

[pinklc]

Originally Posted by simbad

World War 1-nsw vs vic 2008. its open to all to submit any imput and enter. pink lc has got the vote for the vic manager, so all inquiries can be done via mcf to him and any nsw inquiries via mcf to me. whats it all about? well we have a dispute of who is the best burnout state! now i know nsw would win if it was how many idiots got busted doing it every week on sydney streets! but i think the vic cops arent as smart as ours. we are talking now bout a off-street legal shootout! now how many of us go to comps and dont understand the judging. well thats what im about. im no big shot self proclaimed promoter!!! im one of us trying to establish a sport for ALL to have a go! catergories- thats a big question i want sorted! its got to be a national scoring system that works! and user friendly so that my mum and dad can find it easy to tick the boxes then add it up! some say banging the tyres is a criteria, some same fire is a disqualification. well lets bring it out in the open now or forever hold your piece! now i class my truck as a ****ter, and i will run a catergory called rough and tough, anything goes. then we got outlaw class and street class.come on members lets get it on!!

Alright sounds like we have got a competition here.
Now i believe to make this a success we have to stick to an old saying keep it simple stupid. Now im not implying that anybody on this forum is stupid im just saying lets not complicate this burnout thing too much. Lets run say 2 classes blown and naturally asparated. No control tyre as there are too many variables some blokes like 15" some 17" the really rich blokes might want to smash 20" and then there are 4 wheel drive tyres and also what width?? I dont beleive there needs to be a certain amount of donuts or figure 8s as long as it is kept off the wall or out of the dirt. For this you could instead of disqualifying someone just deduct points. I know myself i can go out there with the best skid plan in the world and once im out there it just turns to s**t there might be some coolant on the trck or oil anything then you just have to work with the car. As for a time limit that is hard as some cars can peel off a set of tyres in under a minute where as some others may take a minute and a half and then there is the surface your skidding on some are more course than others.. I think the car should be judged on 1 tyre blown. Now if the competitor wants to keep going and smash the other tyre he or she will not be scored on that tyre but they will no doubt pick some points in the crowd response! Also i beleive that the car should drive out under its own power. I know that things breaking is a great spectacle for the crowd but i think you should be scored up to that point or the point were the car wont move under its own power. Anyway im sure there are things i have not addressed and many things people will not agree with but that is what we want.
So come on people let us know. If you want a set of rules that you would be happy to be judged by then you need to say your peice.

[FAT-245]

How about scoring the entrant on crowd response IF the car gives out?

Flames always get people histerical, as in Glowing Headers, Transmission Fires

Cause personally, if the car gives out while he is sitting on rev limiter you have to hand it to him for going all out for the crowd.

[pinklc]

Originally Posted by FAT-245

How about scoring the entrant on crowd response IF the car gives out?

Flames always get people histerical, as in Glowing Headers, Transmission Fires

Cause personally, if the car gives out while he is sitting on rev limiter you have to hand it to him for going all out for the crowd.

yea i agree in perth the firies will normally put a fire out and as long as its not a oil fire or fuel fire they will let the car go again.
If she burns a second time its game over.
Works great over there. But as i said the car is scored until she gives up.Maybe have a section on the score sheet for when the car drives off under its own power and yes if a car breaks while skidding there will be points for crowd response but they miss out on the points for driving off..

[switched on]

yep well said pinklc.
as for a car catching fire though if you have to stop due to the fire a second attempt i dunno about????? because realistically if you have to stop it should maybe be game over. if you nail yourself into a corner and have to reverse then again its over. i just think we are talking about making it a tough competition here to sort out who's the toughest state.

[Struggler]

I'm a big believer in having seperate classes for blown and N/a cars.

I don't think novices should have to compete with big hitters.

Your car must sound good. I hate hearing engines on factory limiters or running with a missing cylinder (or 3).

Tyres blowing off is a bonus, but not essential.

I like the idea of having to drive off or being penalized for being pushed away.

Just my 2 cents.........

[BSZERK]

yer i agree 2 classes N/a and forced fed it gives us n/a guys a chance without having to compete with the blown guys i know this is a comp to see who has the biggest hitters but you dont want to scare away any potential competitors as its all about getting out there and having a go and scoring on 1 tyre blowing i also agree with as alot of people dont want to damage there paint or bodywork, im one of them people as soon as 1 tyre goes i will be stopping as i havent got the cash the fix it, im not going out there to win im going out there for a good time and to kill some tyres but i will be doing my best and giving it my all for NSW

[pinklc]

Originally Posted by switched on

yep well said pinklc.
as for a car catching fire though if you have to stop due to the fire a second attempt i dunno about????? because realistically if you have to stop it should maybe be game over. if you nail yourself into a corner and have to reverse then again its over. i just think we are talking about making it a tough competition here to sort out who's the toughest state.

if you back your self into a corner you are losing big points on driver control if they stop you for a tyre fire then you should be able to go again as it is a crowd pleaser and sometimes s**t happens. You have to remember we need these rules to make the comp as even as possible BUT we are still there to entertain the crowds.

[pinklc]

Originally Posted by BSZERK

yer i agree 2 classes N/a and forced fed it gives us n/a guys a chance without having to compete with the blown guys i know this is a comp to see who has the biggest hitters but you dont want to scare away any potential competitors as its all about getting out there and having a go and scoring on 1 tyre blowing i also agree with as alot of people dont want to damage there paint or bodywork, im one of them people as soon as 1 tyre goes i will be stopping as i havent got the cash the fix it, im not going out there to win im going out there for a good time and to kill some tyres but i will be doing my best and giving it my all for NSW

Yea the 2 classes works well it has worked perfect at the GAZZANATIONALS the last few years. You are right you dont want to scare away the new blokes as there is a lot of purpose built cars these days. How about if we are running a state v state thing in eaither team we need equal amounts of blown cars to asparated cars so if a team is made up of 8 cars 4 blown 4 n/a because we all know there are stinking tuff n/a cars out there.

[tanka5.7]

depends if your tyre fire is caused by puttin fuel or other accelerant in your tyres which i have heard has been the case with some people